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John Cronin

Mormons Boost Antigay Marriage Effort

September 21st, 2008 | 8 Comments | Posted in California, Evangelicals, LDS, Mitt Romney, Mormons

Fine article in the WSJ commenting on the ongoing cooperation by Catholics, evangelical Protestants and the LDS Church in their fight to preserve the sanctity of traditional marriage. I have said in these pages many times, that while we have differences in our understanding of Christian theology, are shared values are so close that we are natural allies and, as we continue to partner in these important causes, together we are a political force to be respected or feared.

~~John Cronin~~

[Editor's Note: For purposes of brevity, I did not include the full text of the article]

Wall Street Journal Weekend Print Edition

By: Mark Schoofs

Mormons have emerged as a dominant fund raising force in the hotly contested California ballot fight to ban same-sex marriage.

Members of the Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have contributed more that a third of the approximately $15.4 million raised since June 1 to support Proposition 8. The ballot initiative, if passed, would reverse the current right of same-sex couples to marry.

The tally of Mormon contributions was provided by Frank Schubert, campaign manager for Protect Marriage.com—Yes on 8, the initiative’s primary backer. A finance-tracking group corroborated Mormon fund raising dominance, saying it could exceed 40%.

The Mormon Church decision to enlist members on behalf of the same-sex marriage ban as given supporters of Proposition 8 a fund raising lead. The campaign to defeat the initiative has collected around $13 million so far, said Steve Smith, a top campaign consultant for No on 8, Equality for All. Both sides raised roughly equal amounts in the early stages, said Mr. Smith, but “all of a sudden in the last few weeks they are out raising us, and it appears to be Mormon money.”

The battle has drawn in money from around the country. The Knights of Columbus, a Roman Catholic group, has given $1 million to support Proposition 8. Focus on the Family, a non-profit organization composed mainly of evangelical Protestants, has given more than $400,000. The Yes on 8 campaign has received “more proportionately from the Latter-day Saints Church than from any other faith,” said Mr. Schubert, 35% to 40% of the total.

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Layton Book Rips National GOP For Anti-Mormon Bias

August 18th, 2008 | 36 Comments | Posted in Evangelicals, LDS, Mitt Romney, Mormons

I don’t know enough about the subject to even hazard a guess as to whether Mr. Foster’s book is accurate or not. I have posted this article as a FYI service to our readers.

~~John Cronin~~

http://www.standard.net/live/news/140695/

LAYTON — Frustrated by the treatment former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney received from the “religious right” in his run for U.S. president, a Layton historian has written a book documenting the anti-Mormon bias amidst the national GOP party.

The 244-page, softcover book, “A Different God? Mitt Romney, The Religious Right and the Mormon Question” by Craig L. Foster, lists for $24.95 and is now available online at Amazon.com and Barnes&Noble.com and is expected to reach book stores by Aug. 21.

The book was published by Greg Kofford Books, a Salt Lake City publishing company.

Foster, a 30-year GOP member and former Davis County party chairman, said his intent is to demonstrate there was an anti-Mormon bias by the “religious right” within the national party against Romney, a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

That bias was a significant factor in Romney’s failed attempt at the presidency, the 48-year-old Foster said.

Romney, who made Utah’s 2002 Olympic Winter Games a success, received about 90 percent of Utah’s Republican vote in the Feb. 5 presidential western primary, well outdistancing the field.

What frustrates Foster, an LDS Church genealogist and historian, is Utah Republicans are conservative party members who have been devoted to GOP candidates, including giving President George W. Bush his largest margin of victory in his 2004 re-election bid.

We all remember the South voting as a bloc for Huckabee. Mitt was strong in most of the early primary states, won Michigan going away and won most of the Western states in landslides, but the string of losses in the South was impossible to overcome, especially with the later narrow losses in Missouri and California.

The Bountiful Republican does admit Romney’s downfall in his campaign may have stemmed from opposition he received within the national party from segments in the South, where some view Mormons as being members of a cult.”When you get right down to it, it was a slap in the face of Utah Republicans,” Foster said, who, in the book, refers to the Mormon bias in boxing terms as “a low blow.”

While Foster and Christensen remain doubtful Romney will be named to McCain’s ticket, the state’s leading Republican remains optimistic.

State Republican Party Chairman Stan Lockhart said, based on everything he has read and heard from those within the party, Romney remains on McCain’s “short list” of potential running mates.

Before dropping out of the race for president, Romney had won 11 states, Lockhart said, and seemed to be receiving good response from GOP members across the nation.

Foster has authored two books and co-authored a book with Newell G. Bringhurst, “The Mormon Quest for the Presidency.”

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IRS Investigating Internet Evangelist

Bill Keller, who really hit the Media’s radar screen during the primaries with his infamous quote about Mitt Romney is being investigated by the IRS according to EarnedMedia.Org in a story referencing the original article in the NEW YORK TIMES.

I thought his remark was way off base and apparently the IRS does as well. It will be very interesting to see how the case develops.

~~John Cronin~~


http://www.earnedmedia.org/wdc0624.htm

MEDIA ADVISORY, June 24 /Christian Newswire/ –

The New York Times has broken the story that Bill Keller, founder of Liveprayer.com with over 2.4 million subscribers to his Daily Devotional and host of the Liveprayer TV program, is under investigation for possibly violating his tax exempt status in speaking out last year against former Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s Mormon beliefs. Keller, who was the first Christian leader to speak out nationally against Romney’s beliefs coined the now infamous phrase, “A vote for Romney is a vote for Satan.”

Keller maintains that he has done nothing to violate his tax exemption status and says his attorneys are confident the ministry will be cleared of any wrongdoing. Keller stated, “I have every right to educate people on spiritual matters and deal with the pressing spiritual issues of our day, even those that transcend into the political arena. Unlike many Christian leaders, I have never, or ever will endorse any candidate for public office and have never told people who to or not to vote for.” He has recently been in the national news making the case that the Democratic nominee for President, Senator Barack Obama is not a Christian.

New York Times story from Tuesday, June 24, 2008: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/23/challenging-the-irs/

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Bush to Meet with LDS Leaders

May 24th, 2008 | 10 Comments | Posted in Fundraising, John McCain, LDS, Mitt Romney, Utah

In order to get a feel for how much John McCain needs Mitt Romney’s fund raising expertise, take a look at the figures below.

~~John Cronin~~

http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_9343009

President Bush is expected to meet with LDS Church leaders next week, the first meeting since the new general authorities were sustained in February.

The meeting between Bush and the leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is scheduled for May 29, said Rob Howell, a spokesman for the church. The White House has not released details of the trip.

“Romney had a very powerful fundraising operation with a lot of donations coming out of this area, and of course now he can leverage that to help McCain,” said Quin Monson, a Brigham Young University political science professor. “And the McCain campaign clearly needs the money to compete. They’re clearly not raising the small donors’ money that Obama is.”

McCain’s campaign report through the end of April showed that he raised $502,650 from Utah donors. Obama has raised $584,009 and Clinton raised $489,842 through the same period.

Romney, who was head of the 2002 Winter Olympic Games in Utah, raised $5.5 million before dropping out of the presidential race and endorsing McCain.

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Ecumenical Meeting Marks First Time Mormons Join In Papal Gathering

April 20th, 2008 | 19 Comments | Posted in Charitable Giving, LDS, Mitt Romney, Mormons

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0802159.htm

By: Beth Griffin

Catholic News Service

In an important ecumenical milestone, Father James Massa, Executive Director of the U.S. Bishop’s Secretariat of Ecumenical and Inter-religious Affairs has announced that two members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints have attended a Papal prayer service at St. Joseph’s Church in New York.

On April 18, two members of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, Elders M. Russell Ballard and Quentin L. Cook took part in the historic meeting.

It’s my understanding from the article that the Catholic Church and the LDS Church have also been co-operating with Catholic Relief Services (CRS) in helping the victims of natural disasters.

Kudos to both Churches for their generous service to those in need.

Click on over and read a very fine article on this ground breaking event.

~~John Cronin~~

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Vic Lundquist

The 900-Pound Gorilla — RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY

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Though I provide analysis below, I do not suggest I have answers to the questions I raise. But I do raise questions that I think are of critical importance and consideration; not just to this current presidential contest, but more importantly to America. These are questions I think nobody wants to discuss (see photo below).

Tonight (1/29), I have heard the term “lick their wounds” several times. That is not at all how I feel about the loss in Florida. It is fair to say, I believe, that America as a nation, has matured in its history to a point in which a woman or a black man can be elected President by a majority of both sexes and a majority of those of the white or black races. I believe that America has come of age to the point that the bigotry we call sexism and racism, though still engrained in some people, has been marginalized.

What about the bigotry of religious intolerance? In an enlightened age, it is known by all that bigotry of any kind is not acceptable. In this modern day, we don’t generally hear statements of bigotry in common language in ways that were pervasive as recent as the 1950s and 1960s. Religious bigotry was even out in the open at that time as evidenced by evangelical ministers that routinely and publicly denounced the idea that Americans might vote for a Catholic. Today, bigotry of any kind, as a matter of common discussion in mixed company, is simply unacceptable in today’s diverse age. As a result, we do not hear public discussion about religious bigotry. Does that mean that this form of bigotry has also been marginalized to the point America can elect a Mormon? I do not believe it has. In fact, I think it is still pervasive, if now private.

In the states in which GMR won the Silver, by how much did he miss the Gold? Usually around 5%, maybe 10%. Today, he missed the Gold by 6% in a very large state. Since I began to seriously pay attention to presidential politics for 2008 back in 2006, I have seen poll results showing that a fair number of Americans are unwilling to ever vote for a Mormon; anywhere from about 20% of those surveyed to 40% recently. Since I have always concluded that America has matured to the point at which religious intolerance has been effectively marginalized, I more or less dismissed those poll numbers as based on simple ignorance, not bigotry.

Then, as the early state caucuses and primaries became history, I started to see a trend that I saw repeated today in Florida. It is fair to say that a majority of Americans do not find McCain acceptable as President as evidenced by his votes of 35% compared to 65% to all others. But to understand whether bigotry is at work against MR specifically, we need to drill down into the numbers. Is it not also fair to say that the most conservative voters of all would not be generally attracted to McCain, who is a well-known liberal Republican, or at least a Republican that cannot be trusted?

[In order to keep this commentary from becoming longer than it is, I use only the initials of candidates’ first and last names and any time there is a number, it represents a percentage]

In Florida, among evangelicals, the votes were JM(30), MR(29), MH(29). We can conclude that the 29 who voted for MR are not bigots. My presumption is that the reason MH’s 29 did not go to JM is because they consider him way too liberal to represent their values and principles. But if MH were not in the race, would all 29 go to MR? As you think about that answer, if they would not all go to MR, why would any significant portion of them go to JM? Incidentally, as MH keeps smiling and telling the world he can be the nominee, he knows he cannot. He won exactly 4 of all non-evangelical votes; that is par for the course for him. Since day one in Iowa, there has never been broad support for MH. Why does he stay in the race?

White evangelicals voted this way: MH(31), MR(31), JM(28). I think it is fair to say that those who voted for JM would be the more moderate or less orthodox evangelicals, simply because they could have chosen an orthodox evangelical in MH, and they did not. If true, and MH were not in the race, would MH’s 31 go to JM or MR and why? Why would an orthodox evangelical vote for the more liberal, twice married, untrustworthy Republican when they have MR, whose values and principles are much closer to theirs by comparison?

Of voters who think abortion should be illegal, the votes were MR(35), JM(29), MH (21). These are very conservative voters. We know 35 are not bigots and since MR won the majority here, we know that a very high percentage of voters know him to be strong pro-life. If MH were not in the race, would most of his 21 go to MR or JM and why? Of voters who think abortion should always be illegal, the votes were MH(32), MR(30), and JM(26). These voters are even more conservative overall. If MH were not in the race, would most of his 32 go to the more conservative candidate MR? If they would not, why not? Why would more than a handful go to JM instead of MR? Could bigotry influence their decision to go to JM?

Voters that identified themselves as very conservative were MR(44), JM(21), MH(20). It is well known by now that MR is the most conservative of both JM and MH. That being the case, if MH were not in the race, would his ‘very conservative’ voters go to the known, more conservative MR or to the less conservative, more liberal JM? And why? Could bigotry influence their decision to go to JM?

Over at Evangelicals for Mitt, both Steven Muscatello and Nancy French think MH should do “the honorable thing” and drop out. Read their excellent arguments here and here. But think of the context of my rhetorical questions above and consider this. If RG could so easily see the vanity of continuing the race, knowing he could never win, why can MH not see it? Or is it that he sees it and has ulterior motives? Think of the irony. RG, the person many have derided as ethically challenged, drops out seeing the reality; there are no ulterior motives really. MH, whose supporters consider the most ethical and upstanding man in the race, who would consider himself the most humble among them all, plans to “win the nomination” to quote him. Right. And pigs will fly for the first time in February. We now have resounding proof that MH cannot garner more than 10% of all non-evangelical votes and he has only nearly received 40% of all evangelical votes in one state. Clearly, he has no broad support, unlike GWB did as an evangelical. So, his decision to stay in the race is based on what? Ego? Vanity? Love of the sport? Is he lying to us when he says he is not running for Pastor in Chief? Or does he want to influence his voters away from MR and if so, why?

As many at this site have shown, MH revealed his stripes when he let slip his rhetorical Jesus/brother question in an interview. He also ardently campaigned in Salt Lake City to save the Mormons there from hell at the evangelical convention.

My opinion is that the frequent citing of 20 to 40 percent of all Americans unwilling to vote for a Mormon for President, the bigots are at the low end of the range. I may be naïve, but I do not believe that 40% of all Americans are religious bigots. Now, we know that when MR loses the Gold, the margin of loss is only 5% to 10%. That margin of difference is well below the 20% conservative estimate. Where are those 20% or so aligned? Are they divided among RG, MH, and JM? Are they mostly with MH or JM?

My conclusion is that the margin of victory that JM has enjoyed in any state, is a direct correlation to the reported bigotry still pervasive in America. If so, how does MR overcome this obvious bigotry, to win? These less than 20% “unwilling voters” are currently aligned with RG, JM, and MH, in some unknown mix. But knowing this does not help, does it? By definition, if they are bigots, MR will never be their choice. It cannot be argued that all 20% of these “unwilling” voters are in JM’s camp. Yet, it is he that is the beneficiary of their unwillingness to ever vote for MR. And clearly not all of the supporters left in RG’s and MH’s camp are bigots; but some are. So it is fair to say that if both RG and MH were not in the race, a fair number of their non-bigoted supporters would back the most conservative candidate in the race — MR. And why are the voters not following Rush Limbaugh’s advice to not vote for JM and MH?

So again, what is the motivation of MH to remain in a race he knows he cannot and will not win? Is his primary motivation to steer as many evangelicals to the Protestant JM, away from MR? If so, is that reason enough to not drop out of the race?

I think this issue is the 900-pound gorilla in the room with which nobody wants to make eye contact.

~ Vic

[Source of exit poll information above: CNN Politics]
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Glen Beck’s Tribute to LDS President Gordon B. Hinckley

As most of you know on this blog, we try to keep most “religion talk” off of this blog. Since it’s been such a pointed issue for Governor Romney, it’s normally met with scorn. Well, to those of us that are LDS we lost our dear beloved “Prophet, Seer, and Revelator” this week. His name was Gordon B. Hinckley, and throughout his entire membership in the LDS Church, particularly during his Presidency he affected so many people. His sweet disposition was very unique is that he always spoke so kindly to others.

Glen Beck (who also is a member of my faith) did a tribute to this beloved man, and here it is. I hope that those LDS and Non-LDS alike can take something very positive from it, and positively change the world.



P.S. There is a great shot of President Reagan and President Hinckley in this video.

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Lame McCain

Looks like McCain’s McCain/Feingold reform has come in handy for him.  The Maverick Conservative has a great post on McCain’s attacks over the weekend.

As Andrew McCarthy pointed out, look how McCain is taking advantage of his attack on the Frist Amendment here (McCain/Feingold).  McCain’s “reforem” prevents organizations from pointing out LIES of a candidate (or organization supporting a candidate)  within 30 days of a primary.  That means that NO GROUP could point out McCain’s LIE about Romney in Florida.  Now ROMNEY himself can talk about it.  But otherwise you have to rely on the MEDIA (that is why McCain/Feingold was really a MEDIA POWER GRAB, as well as being an attack on the First Amendment)…

I can assure you:  McCain is full of it:  a suck up to the media rather than a true “straight talker”.  He got the REPUTATION for straight talk by SUCKING UP TO THE MEDIA.  He has always said what he thinks will endear him to the press atany particular time–whether it is consistent with what he said yesterday or not.  McCain has NEVER been intellectually consistent, or interested in FACTS.  It is no accident that the McCain/Kennedy immigration (amnesty) bill is all about DECEPTION (see the more than fifty entires in this blog under the general heading of “illegal immigration deception”).

Here’s what Andrew McCarthy had to say:

I’m starting to think Sen. McCain should not be allowed to mention the other candidates’ names within 30 days before a primary. I mean, he levels an allegation about Romney that’s just flat not true, and if some organization wanted to run an add calling him on it, they would be in violation of his “reform” of campaign finance regulations. What a racket!

Also, I believe there may be some Latter-Day Saint readers of this blog.  Mitt made a statement today on yesterday’s passing of the President of the Mormon Church.

“I was saddened to learn of the death of Gordon B. Hinckley. Ann and I respect him as a man of great faith and character. Like all people who knew him, we were deeply touched by his humility, his sense of humor and by the way he inspired so many people around the world. We will miss his leadership.”

Here is a more in-depth article on Mitt’s reaction.

Any predictions on the outcome of tomorrow’s Primary?

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A Woman? Sure! — A Black Man? Sure! — A Mormon? H*** No!

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Some pictures are worth more than a thousand words!

Is it not true that, as Americans, just about every person alive who can vote would not hesitate one second (so they say) to vote for a black man or a woman for President? That this country has progressed over the decades to the point where racial bigotry and gender discrimination are considered relics of the past? We know that both forms of bigotry still exist, but to a much smaller degree than in years past. And yet, religious intolerance, one of the great evils that drove people to found this nation, is still the most conspicuous, insidious, and unspeakable forms of bigotry that pervades this nation!

If you don’t believe me, get a copy of ARTICLE VI — The Movie and tell me I am wrong.

There are still millions in this great nation who are religious bigots beyond comprehension — sorry to say.
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Artwork by Michael Ramirez — Courtesy of IBD Editorials

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What if Utah was the first to Caucus…

…60% of the caucus voters were LDS, and Mitt only got 34% of the vote, what would the media story be?

A commenter on one of the Washington Post blogs made this point and I thought it was quite brilliant.

Turn Rich Lowry’s numbers around and you’d see something very interesting - if Utah was the first caucus and 60% of caucusers were Mormons and Mitt only got 1/3 of the vote and only won by 9 points, you’d say he lost. You’d say that even if his opponent had spent millions more. I hate to sound like a sore loser, but the media response doesn’t make sense to me. Given the favorable circumstances, I think Huckabee lost and Mitt won.

It doesn’t change the outcome, but it really brings out the media bias we are up against. (if you have the stomach for it, there’s many heated (and revealing) comments down the thread which make it eminently clear what else we are up against)

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Article VI (6)

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