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It’s going to get ugly: Palin Post-Mortem

November 6th, 2008 Posted in Mitt Romney

If what Carl Cameron says in this clip is even only half true, I am mortified.

I don’t know how much truth there is to it, but I’ve generally found Carl Cameron to be pretty credible.

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31 Responses to “It’s going to get ugly: Palin Post-Mortem”

  1. SBI Says:

    This is despicable. Not how she supposedly behaved but the fact that they already starting trashing her and blaming her for the loss. I don’t buy it.


  2. Chris Says:

    Fits the mold. Raido silence about her LACK of intelligence was deafing. We saw it. We even heard snippits of it. How could she NOT know she was being pranked by the fake call from France? World leaders just don’t pick up the telephone and call U.S. veep nominees to ‘chat’. Especailly ones you’ve never met, or have ever had a reason to have a conversation with. Heck, she might have even had an aide wispering in her ear “ma’ame, don’t tell him you can see London or France from your home.” The newsweek article says that she and McCain rarely spoke. Oh heck. Are you serious? No wonder they could not get the stories straight.

    She set women back 50 years. She has successfully put superglue on the cracked glass ceiling and now we need to start over. There is wisdom in knowing when it is ‘your time’ and when it is not. She jumped the line, was not ready and was not even smart enough to know she was not ready. A simple no, might have changed this election. A simple ‘I am honored, Mr. McCain, but my son is 5 months old and has downs. My 17 unmarried daughter has just announced that I’ll be a grandparent. My job as Gov of a state with less folks in it than timbucktoo, is almost too much with all that’s going on in my family. Thank you Senator. But not this time. My family needs to comes first. Call me in about 10-15 years, and we’ll talk.” THAT should have been the conversation, and not ‘OH GOLLY! Betcha I can whip up them joesixpacks to vote!” Her wardrobe malfunctions, her blaming the media for every misstep she made, the lack of knowledge was so vast, it was impossible to overlook. Some said after the convention, they looked into her eyes and saw Reagan. I looked and saw no one was home.


  3. Paulee Says:

    Well, Mr. TV Fox Star Huckabee, says she is the scapegoat. I feel she came on late, not fully vetted. We all know the reasons for that choice. RNC Chairperson, and other Republicans have to regroup, define their ideals, what the people are wanting from our party. If all is true about Sarah, maybe her ego got in her way, and should have let someone that had been vetted, or at least was a little more worldly and experienced step in to the 2nd most powerful position in this country. After saying that, she did connect and energize the base at first blush. When they got into her head, I think she was a diamond in the ruff. And then there is Mitt Romney, who is a five caret diamond, with all the frills. Well, Sarah will either be history, or she will climb the political ladder. Time will determine her fate.


  4. Joe Says:

    What I want to know is what we can do right now to start making sure the GOP makes good choices based on getting back to conservatism over the next year or two.

    (And although I agree wit Gov Palin on many issues, I don’t find her suitable for the Presidency… you’ve gotta know Africa is a continent!)


  5. Aron Says:

    SBI, you’re right on. The Cameron report is mostly unsubstantiated rumors - note that the aides are anonymous. I suspect there is about as much basis to the reports as there are to the rumors now going around the conservative web that Romney and his former aides are behind the attacks on Palin. False, and damaging to the future of the movement.

    Romney would have been a better choice on the policy front, but I doubt he could have energized the base like Palin; in fact the same despicable tactics used by the Huckabee crowd against Romney probably would have continued and divided the base.

    If Romney had been on top of the ticket instead of McCain, Palin probably would have been an excellent choice for VP.


  6. JA Says:

    How irritating that some of the more rabid Palin supporters (who are probably Huck fans as well) are still bound and determined to pin these leaks on Mitt, even though there is not one single iota of evidence to back that up. I was just reading some of the comments at HotAir and RedState, and if Mitt himself isn’t being blamed, it’s “former Romney staffers” or “Romney supporters”. Get a life and face reality, people. Mitt did everything he could to help McCain/Palin, and it’s certainly not his fault that they crashed and burned.


  7. Chris Says:

    Palin said in one of her new interviews that if she caused McCain one vote, she’s sorry. She cost McCain my vote. I may be a romney supporter, but I would have entertained a whole host of others. I’m sure she’s a nice woman. But like many, I did not feel she was ready for the vice Presidency. To think. He passed up someone of Mitt’s calibler for her. It showed McCains total lack of good judgement.


  8. Jerald Says:

    Well, if the Huckabee/Palin diehards keeping blaming everything bad, real and imagined, on Romney then they might wake up one day and find the Republican party has left them behind.

    We are all getting really sick and tired of it.


  9. Thomas Alan Says:

    First 2012 GOP Primary poll:

    Romney 33%
    Huckabee 20
    Palin 18

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/05/1646644.aspx


  10. John Says:

    For those that say that Palin will be a major player in the Republican Party for years to come. I say, that we will never hear from her again.


  11. Chris Says:

    John,
    Let us pray it will be so.
    Palin should have never been elevated at this time. I don’t want her followers to even think she can rise up again. She shot her gun without training, and missed the target. She does not get a do over because she’s cute and sassy.


  12. 2thePoint Says:

    As O’Reillly said, I’m sure there’s a book in it for somebody.


  13. Marybeth Says:

    This makes me sick. These “unnamed” staffers don’t have the guts to come out and say who they are, which makes them VERY uncredible to me. And Cameron says all of this with such giddiness in his voice. He’s been a McCain shill for years. Totally classless. I despise the man.

    Rumors are flying around the Internet that the leaks were coming from former Mitt staffers who went to work for McCain after the primaries. If this is true, I hope Mitt denounces these people roundly and loudly.

    McCain lost because he ran a lousy campaign - period.

    All of this being said, I support Mitt for Pres in 2012 with all my heart. However, if these leaks came from Mitt’s former staffers, he’d better get after them.


  14. Marybeth Says:

    Oh, and by the way, I refused to vote for McCain . . . until he put Sarah Palin on the ticket. At least she is a true conservative, which is more than I can say for McCain.

    Give the woman a break. She did the best she could in a LOUSY campaign.


  15. Marybeth Says:

    And here is Ann Coulter’s latest article. Coulter, as you know, supports Romney:

    THE REIGN OF LAME FALLS MAINLY ON MCCAIN
    November 5, 2008

    Last night was truly a historic occasion: For only the second time in her adult life, Michelle Obama was proud of her country!

    The big loser of this election is Colin Powell, whose last-minute endorsement of Obama put the Illinois senator over the top. Powell was probably at home last night, yelling at his TV, “Are you KIDDING me? That endorsement was sarcastic!”

    The winner, of course, is Obama, who must be excited because now he can start hanging out in public with Bill Ayers and Rev. Jeremiah Wright again. John McCain is a winner because he can resume buying more houses.

    And we’re all winners because we will never again have to hear McCain say, “my friends.”

    After Bill Clinton won the 1992 presidential election, Hillary Clinton immediately announced that, henceforth, she would be known as “Hillary Rodham Clinton.” So maybe Obama can now become B. Hussein Obama, his rightful name.

    This was such an enormous Democratic year that even John Murtha won his congressional seat in Pennsylvania after calling his constituents racists. It turns out they’re not racists — they’re retards. Question: What exactly would one have to say to alienate Pennsylvanians? That Joe Paterno should retire?

    Apparently Florida voters didn’t mind Obama’s palling around with Palestinian activist Rashid Khalidi and Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, either. There must be a whole bunch of retired Pennsylvania Jews down there.

    Have you ever noticed that whenever Democrats lose presidential elections, they always blame it on the personal qualities of their candidate? Kerry was a dork, Gore was a stiff, Dukakis was a bloodless android, Mondale was a sad sack.

    This blame-the-messenger thesis allows Democrats to conclude that their message was fine — nothing should be changed! The American people are clamoring for higher taxes, big government, a defeatist foreign policy, gay marriage, the whole magilla. It was just this particular candidate’s personality.

    Republicans lost this presidential election, and I don’t blame the messenger; I blame the message. How could Republicans go after B. Hussein Obama (as he is now known) on planning to bankrupt the coal companies when McCain supports the exact same cap and trade policies and earnestly believes in global warming?

    How could we go after Obama for his illegal alien aunt and for supporting driver’s licenses for illegal aliens when McCain fanatically pushed amnesty along with his good friend Teddy Kennedy?

    How could we go after Obama for Jeremiah Wright when McCain denounced any Republicans who did so?

    How could we go after Obama for planning to hike taxes on the “rich,” when McCain was the only Republican to vote against both of Bush’s tax cuts on the grounds that they were tax cuts for the rich?

    And why should Republican activists slave away working for McCain when he has personally, viciously attacked: John O’Neill and the Swift Boat Veterans, National Right to Life director Doug Johnson, evangelical pastors Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and John Hagee, various conservative talk radio hosts, the Tennessee Republican Party and on and on and on?

    As liberal Democrat E.J. Dionne Jr. exuded about McCain in The Washington Post during the Republican primaries, “John McCain is feared by Democrats and liked by independents.” Dionne proclaimed that McCain “may be the one Republican who can rescue his party from the undertow of the Bush years.”

    Similarly, after unelectable, ultraconservative Reagan won two landslide victories, James Reston of The New York Times gave the same advice to Vice President George H.W. Bush: Stop being conservative! Bush was “a good man,” Reston said in 1988, “and might run a strong campaign if liberated from Mr. Reagan’s coattails.”

    Roll that phrase around a bit — “liberated from Mr. Reagan’s coattails.” This is why it takes so long to read the Times — you have to keep reading the same paragraph over again to see if you missed a word.

    Bush, of course, rode Reagan’s ultraconservative coattails to victory, then snipped those coattails by raising taxes and was soundly defeated four years later.

    I keep trying to get Democrats to take my advice (stop being so crazy), but they never listen to me. Why do Republicans take the advice of their enemies?

    How many times do we have to run this experiment before Republican primary voters learn that “moderate,” “independent,” “maverick” Republicans never win, and right-wing Republicans never lose?

    Indeed, the only good thing about McCain is that he gave us a genuine conservative, Sarah Palin. He’s like one of those insects that lives just long enough to reproduce so that the species can survive. That’s why a lot of us are referring to Sarah as “The One” these days.

    Like Sarah Connor in “The Terminator,” Sarah Palin is destined to give birth to a new movement. That’s why the Democrats are trying to kill her. And Arnold Schwarzenegger is involved somehow, too. Good Lord, I’m tired.

    After showing nearly superhuman restraint throughout this campaign, which was lost the night McCain won the California primary, I am now liberated to announce that all I care about is hunting down and punishing every Republican who voted for McCain in the primaries. I have a list and am prepared to produce the names of every person who told me he was voting for McCain to the proper authorities.

    We’ll start with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Florida Gov. Charlie Crist. Then we shall march through the states of New Hampshire and South Carolina — states that must never, ever be allowed to hold early Republican primaries again.

    For now, we have a new president-elect. In the spirit of reaching across the aisle, we owe it to the Democrats to show their president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that they have shown our recent Republican president.

    Starting tomorrow, if not sooner.

    COPYRIGHT 2008 ANN COULTER
    DISTRIBUTED BY UNIVERSAL PRESS SYNDICATE
    1130 Walnut, Kansas City, MO 64106


  16. Tracey Says:

    Marybeth

    If the future of the republican party is Sarah Palin types, the party is over for me.

    She did not know that Africa was a continent. Do you really expect Americans to put someone in the highest office of this land who can not pass a 6th grade geography test? It seems to me her greatest skill is shopping.

    WE NEED SMART, COMPETENT LEADERSHIP IN WASHINGTON.


  17. Tracey Says:

    Let’s go shopping, compliments of the GOP

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/167581


  18. Stephen Says:

    Marybeth,

    Are you serious? If Sarah is indeed successful in giving birth, again, to a new movement I am sure that Barrack, or is that President Elect Obama, will run the table again in four years.


  19. Nevadagirl Says:

    I’m with Marybeth and Ann Coulter. I don’t know how many of you remember Carl Cameron’s assassination attempts on Mitt in the Primary. Every single piece he did on Mitt was negative; he was constantly trying to bring him down. Just because he talks to Bill or is on Fox News doesn’t make him credible. I have a hard time believing all this nonesense about her. Don’t forget what the media, even Fox News tried to do to Mitt. They have done the same with her. She really was the only bright spot on this campaign for me, and the only conservative on the ticket.
    I am so so so so happy that McCain didn’t pick Mitt for VP. It would have ruined his chances for 2012. Mitt is so perfectly set up now. He’s not tied to McCain’s downfall in any way; when he dropped out, his CPAC speech solidified him as the bearer of the conservative banner for many in the GOP base; he paid his dues campaigning for McCain/Palin; in 2012, he won’t have to run against George Bush AND B. Hussein Obama like McCain did this year; and when B. Hussein Obama puts us into a recession or depression as he surely will, Mitt’s economic credentials will be his ticket.
    Sarah Palin being picked as VP was the best thing that could’ve happened to Mitt. Again, I thought she brought a lot to the ticket, and is far more capable and qualified than the press (and a lot of Mitt supporters) claimed her to be. But if it came down to her vs. Mitt for Prez., obviously I’m a Mitt pit-bull all the way!
    As Ann Coulter said, we’re finally rid of McCain, now we have to deal with Huckabee. I wonder if Palin and Huckabee ran against Mitt, would they split the Evangelical vote, leaving a win for Mitt?


  20. Ron Says:

    What a bunch of crap that Carl Cameron and the “News” and so many very intelligent folk can trash Palin for not knowing what countries are members of NAFTA-I don’t. Give me a break, Obama doesn’t even know how many states their are! Do you see the newsies talking about that? My opinion, the average american voter is ignorant, to uninformed and apathetic to learn the issues, the truth. American voters have chosen, they are about to get what they asked for, what they deserve. God help us.


  21. Chris Says:

    Ron. My 7 yr. knew what was countries were part of NAFTA. My 7 yr old and the rest knew that Africa was a continent. And all my kids know I was the only family in the hood that voted for the Obama! So far, my home is still standing, and no one has crossed the street to avoid me.


  22. Stephen Says:

    North American Free Trade Agreement

    The United States of America
    Canada
    and
    Mexico

    Technically, all of these countries citizens are Americans.

    Guess which country is America’s (U.S.A.) largest trading partner for bonus points -


  23. Jon Says:

    As I mentioned earlier until the blog post was removed yesterday…

    I hope Palin sticks around and considers a run in the future IF Romney and Huckabee plan to run again in 2012. I believe many of those excited/energized about Palin also believed everything Huckabee said. If the three of them run, Huckabee and Palin will split the evangelical vote, essentially doing for Romney what Huck and Mitt did for McCain this time around.

    Palin was obviously not ready and it is unfair to pin the blame of McCain’s loss on her. McCain was the one who decided on tapping a poorly vetted unknown as his maverick sidekick. She is a decent woman who was just in waaaay too deep for her abilities at this time. Of course, if the media had given her a free pass as they did Obama, she would have done fabulously. And of course, now the media can lavish their praise on the ‘one’ they helped into office.


  24. Tracey Says:

    Ron-

    The average American voter may be ignorant, to uninformed but the Average American Vice Presidential candidate should no be ignorant, to uninformed in world affairs, issues etc.


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  27. SED Says:

    Mitt Romney for Senate.

    In 2004 MA Senator John Kerry ran for POTUS. If Kerry were to be elected the Governor then Mitt Romney would have had the power to fill the open seat. To prevent this the overwhelming liberal state legislature voted to change the law to call for a special election.

    In 2008 John Kerry is now very likely to join President Obama’s administration. The current governor is now considering reclaiming that power to prevent a Republican, i.e. Mitt Romney, from winning the seat. The leader of the state senate has so far said no to a law change. Hopefully this decision stands. We need Mitt Romney in US Congress if he decides to make a run for the seat.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/politics/view.bg?articleid=1130383&srvc=next_article


  28. Chris Says:

    that might be a good place for Mitt to hang for 4 years. It just depends upon what Mitt wants now. He’s on a write your own ticket, pass!


  29. John Says:

    Jon that is a great point. We need to be very organized so that there is no doubt that Romney is our only choice. We should take note of Obamas great internet organization.


  30. Tracey Says:

    JON

    How can you say that Palin would have done Fabulously if it had not been for the media? Did you see her interview with Katie Couric? Doesn’t that help you understand why people like myself questioned her ability to be VP?

    It is being leaked that she refused preparation for that interview.


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