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		<title>By: LBR</title>
		<link>http://committedtoromney.com/2008/02/27/buckley-and-conservatism/#comment-98748</link>
		<dc:creator>LBR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So WFB began drifting from support of the constitution in '87, huh?  Please tell me exactly how his core beliefs changed from his "younger years" (prior to age 62, though I find it good news that that age is the new cutoff) and today.  I'm aware or various positions that were more libertarian (drug legalization) or pragmatic (Panama Canal return) than my own (including his stand on many aspects of the war on terror) but then I'm of a more "nebulous" conservative bent so that doesn't prevent me from appreciating not only his intellect but his character.  How young are you that you are under some bizarre misconception that Buckley has ever been propped up and supported by the mainstream media?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So WFB began drifting from support of the constitution in &#8216;87, huh?  Please tell me exactly how his core beliefs changed from his &#8220;younger years&#8221; (prior to age 62, though I find it good news that that age is the new cutoff) and today.  I&#8217;m aware or various positions that were more libertarian (drug legalization) or pragmatic (Panama Canal return) than my own (including his stand on many aspects of the war on terror) but then I&#8217;m of a more &#8220;nebulous&#8221; conservative bent so that doesn&#8217;t prevent me from appreciating not only his intellect but his character.  How young are you that you are under some bizarre misconception that Buckley has ever been propped up and supported by the mainstream media?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://committedtoromney.com/2008/02/27/buckley-and-conservatism/#comment-98558</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bigmo, congrats on knowing who I support -- you've paid attention! And like I've said before, it's not about supporting a particular person, per se, but rather supporting someone who's wise, honest, and defends the US Constitution and judges whether a bill, law, or policy is constitutional or not. Ron certainly does this. Mitt was the second closest, but obviously strayed far from this standard, as he was focused more on promising many big government programs (that are unconstitutional). 

But back to Renna, I think it's important to ask the right questions. Just saying that somebody is a conservative based on some nebulous definition of conservatism doesn't make any sense, does it? Many may prefer this approach as it leaves them in their comfort zone. 

William Buckley was a major force in covering for the established bureaucratic, even despotic mess we have in government today. He was a big part of the problem, and I don't think he's worthy of any praise of any pro-Constitutional American -- a dying breed -- I guess it's become unpopular to stand on principles. It's too bad, but it is the right thing to do. 

I know most on this board have zero problem with honoring and sustaining the law of the land -- and the supreme law is our beloved Constitution -- but applying that principle to our thoughts and action is another thing. That's where you separate the true patriot from the sunshine patriot -- as Thomas Paine I think said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bigmo, congrats on knowing who I support &#8212; you&#8217;ve paid attention! And like I&#8217;ve said before, it&#8217;s not about supporting a particular person, per se, but rather supporting someone who&#8217;s wise, honest, and defends the US Constitution and judges whether a bill, law, or policy is constitutional or not. Ron certainly does this. Mitt was the second closest, but obviously strayed far from this standard, as he was focused more on promising many big government programs (that are unconstitutional). </p>
<p>But back to Renna, I think it&#8217;s important to ask the right questions. Just saying that somebody is a conservative based on some nebulous definition of conservatism doesn&#8217;t make any sense, does it? Many may prefer this approach as it leaves them in their comfort zone. </p>
<p>William Buckley was a major force in covering for the established bureaucratic, even despotic mess we have in government today. He was a big part of the problem, and I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s worthy of any praise of any pro-Constitutional American &#8212; a dying breed &#8212; I guess it&#8217;s become unpopular to stand on principles. It&#8217;s too bad, but it is the right thing to do. </p>
<p>I know most on this board have zero problem with honoring and sustaining the law of the land &#8212; and the supreme law is our beloved Constitution &#8212; but applying that principle to our thoughts and action is another thing. That&#8217;s where you separate the true patriot from the sunshine patriot &#8212; as Thomas Paine I think said.</p>
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		<title>By: bigmo</title>
		<link>http://committedtoromney.com/2008/02/27/buckley-and-conservatism/#comment-98536</link>
		<dc:creator>bigmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renna, I believe his chief concern was Buckley's failure to endorse Ron Paul for president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renna, I believe his chief concern was Buckley&#8217;s failure to endorse Ron Paul for president.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://committedtoromney.com/2008/02/27/buckley-and-conservatism/#comment-98516</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renna,

In his younger years, I agree. But not in the last 2 decades. 

I'm not disagreeing that he is an "intellectual." So what? So he's smart. So he's written 50 books. 

My point was that he was not and is not a promoter of Constitutional government and certainly did NOTHING to expose the real problems in government.

I do not agree that bringing together a bunch of conservatives is a good thing IF they are not focused on the real problems. Buckley hit on the symtoms, not the root causes. He was a pretender. I know this is hard to swallow if you've been tricked. 

And I know it's largely a losing battle to point these things out to die hard Republicans who have swallowed whole hook, line, and sinker the propaganda that Republicans (at the national level) have a different agenda than their Democratic allies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renna,</p>
<p>In his younger years, I agree. But not in the last 2 decades. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not disagreeing that he is an &#8220;intellectual.&#8221; So what? So he&#8217;s smart. So he&#8217;s written 50 books. </p>
<p>My point was that he was not and is not a promoter of Constitutional government and certainly did NOTHING to expose the real problems in government.</p>
<p>I do not agree that bringing together a bunch of conservatives is a good thing IF they are not focused on the real problems. Buckley hit on the symtoms, not the root causes. He was a pretender. I know this is hard to swallow if you&#8217;ve been tricked. </p>
<p>And I know it&#8217;s largely a losing battle to point these things out to die hard Republicans who have swallowed whole hook, line, and sinker the propaganda that Republicans (at the national level) have a different agenda than their Democratic allies.</p>
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		<title>By: Renna</title>
		<link>http://committedtoromney.com/2008/02/27/buckley-and-conservatism/#comment-98509</link>
		<dc:creator>Renna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe:

Hit the books - again. You obviously missed much of the substance of your education. William Buckley was one of few intellectuals to come along in our lifetime. His insightful abilities were outstanding and so far above the average individual that it was almost impossible to follow his thoughts and words. Were his opinions controversial - of course. However, many of them were criticized because they were actually the painful. minimally diplomatic truth about issues and the truth is so often hard to admit and face.

He had a lasting positive impact on our society and provided the inspiration for conservatives to come together and demonstrate a strength in numbers. We must forever remain loyal to our convictions and protect our freedoms and the greatness of America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe:</p>
<p>Hit the books - again. You obviously missed much of the substance of your education. William Buckley was one of few intellectuals to come along in our lifetime. His insightful abilities were outstanding and so far above the average individual that it was almost impossible to follow his thoughts and words. Were his opinions controversial - of course. However, many of them were criticized because they were actually the painful. minimally diplomatic truth about issues and the truth is so often hard to admit and face.</p>
<p>He had a lasting positive impact on our society and provided the inspiration for conservatives to come together and demonstrate a strength in numbers. We must forever remain loyal to our convictions and protect our freedoms and the greatness of America.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://committedtoromney.com/2008/02/27/buckley-and-conservatism/#comment-98493</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MSM has promoted Buckley for years as a strong voice for conservatism, but it has become a lie.  I'm sorry to see Mitt give glowing praise of this traitor to the cause of conservatism.  Ironically, he once was (years ago), much like Rush, who, to his utter condemnation, has sold out and championed many candidates and politicians who could care less about the freedom vouchsafed us by the US Constitution.

The MSM has to give the impression (has to foist lies on the American public) that there are two sides in the political debate. Thus, Democrats and Republicans. And while there may be differences in local races, there is essentially ZERO difference at the national or federal level. They are Republicrats.

William Buckley was as helpful to the cause of true conservatism as the Warren Commission was to an honest investigation of the JFK assassination. 

Anybody who says otherwise is blinded by the craftiness of the MSM, and has lost sight of the just and critically needed cause of "conserving" the principles of the Constitution and the philosophies of the Founding Fathers.

Condolences to the man and his family, but he was no friend to Liberty or our Constitution. If this is a surprise to you, then perhaps you're listening to too much NPR or talk radio or reading any mainstream newspaper. And if you disagree, then search for evidence to the contrary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MSM has promoted Buckley for years as a strong voice for conservatism, but it has become a lie.  I&#8217;m sorry to see Mitt give glowing praise of this traitor to the cause of conservatism.  Ironically, he once was (years ago), much like Rush, who, to his utter condemnation, has sold out and championed many candidates and politicians who could care less about the freedom vouchsafed us by the US Constitution.</p>
<p>The MSM has to give the impression (has to foist lies on the American public) that there are two sides in the political debate. Thus, Democrats and Republicans. And while there may be differences in local races, there is essentially ZERO difference at the national or federal level. They are Republicrats.</p>
<p>William Buckley was as helpful to the cause of true conservatism as the Warren Commission was to an honest investigation of the JFK assassination. </p>
<p>Anybody who says otherwise is blinded by the craftiness of the MSM, and has lost sight of the just and critically needed cause of &#8220;conserving&#8221; the principles of the Constitution and the philosophies of the Founding Fathers.</p>
<p>Condolences to the man and his family, but he was no friend to Liberty or our Constitution. If this is a surprise to you, then perhaps you&#8217;re listening to too much NPR or talk radio or reading any mainstream newspaper. And if you disagree, then search for evidence to the contrary.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Combes</title>
		<link>http://committedtoromney.com/2008/02/27/buckley-and-conservatism/#comment-98387</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Combes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Frozone:  Irrelevance!  Hardly!  From your posts on this site you are one who can help us overcome the liberal onslaught we are about to endure.  Our job will be to unite and cronicle the abuses that will occur as liberalism begins to erode our liberties, our economy, and our culture.  At least one leader has risen from among us.  Hopefully he will continue, and we can help.

Some of us don't write well.  You do.  Stand up and be counted.  Contribute.  Don't give in.  "That which does not destroy us, will make us stronger" (paraphrase) -  P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Frozone:  Irrelevance!  Hardly!  From your posts on this site you are one who can help us overcome the liberal onslaught we are about to endure.  Our job will be to unite and cronicle the abuses that will occur as liberalism begins to erode our liberties, our economy, and our culture.  At least one leader has risen from among us.  Hopefully he will continue, and we can help.</p>
<p>Some of us don&#8217;t write well.  You do.  Stand up and be counted.  Contribute.  Don&#8217;t give in.  &#8220;That which does not destroy us, will make us stronger&#8221; (paraphrase) -  P</p>
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		<title>By: Frozone</title>
		<link>http://committedtoromney.com/2008/02/27/buckley-and-conservatism/#comment-98336</link>
		<dc:creator>Frozone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it precipitously ironic that this man passes at this time when the conservative movement is in the brink of irrelevance.  I hope this is not a harbinger of dark days ahead.

I do, however, offer his family and friends my heartfelt condolences in this our time of loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it precipitously ironic that this man passes at this time when the conservative movement is in the brink of irrelevance.  I hope this is not a harbinger of dark days ahead.</p>
<p>I do, however, offer his family and friends my heartfelt condolences in this our time of loss.</p>
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