Comments on: Huckabee’s Frightening Views of National Security http://committedtoromney.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/ A Community of People Committed to Conservative Principles Since 2005. Fri, 18 May 2012 00:12:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: shiggz http://committedtoromney.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70563 shiggz Wed, 05 Dec 2007 13:41:30 +0000 http://blog.electromneyin2008.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70563 That old phrase tough cases make bad law. The point of keeping terrorists in Guantanamo's is to protect the American Liberties. If terrorists are on American soil getting American courts then a ton of awful judicial precedents will be sent for the American people or terrorists will go free. The biggest threat to Americans is not about terrorists getting lawyers its about Americans being subjected to those awful precedents that would come out of it. Or wed sign a big free pass for all the terrorists in the world. I sure would have loved to hear Romney state this.. Americans are clued in to the idea that tough cases make bad law. Even some liberals would see the wisdom in it. That old phrase tough cases make bad law.

The point of keeping terrorists in Guantanamo’s is to protect the American Liberties. If terrorists are on American soil getting American courts then a ton of awful judicial precedents will be sent for the American people or terrorists will go free.

The biggest threat to Americans is not about terrorists getting lawyers its about Americans being subjected to those awful precedents that would come out of it. Or wed sign a big free pass for all the terrorists in the world.

I sure would have loved to hear Romney state this.. Americans are clued in to the idea that tough cases make bad law. Even some liberals would see the wisdom in it.

]]> By: Jared Trent http://committedtoromney.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70467 Jared Trent Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:52:34 +0000 http://blog.electromneyin2008.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70467 I just don't understand some people putting waterboarding in the same category as torture. When I think of torture, I think of thumbscrews, hot pokers and the such. Permanent damage done to the subject. I would even put highly painful but not permanent treatment as torture. But for someone to say, "I was really scared" is not torture in my eyes. Waterboarding is just simulating drowning, making the person panic from fear of death. Sure, it's not very nice and something that no one would want to be subject to, but torture? I reserve that word for things involving great pain and/or body mutilation. I just don’t understand some people putting waterboarding in the same category as torture. When I think of torture, I think of thumbscrews, hot pokers and the such. Permanent damage done to the subject. I would even put highly painful but not permanent treatment as torture. But for someone to say, “I was really scared” is not torture in my eyes. Waterboarding is just simulating drowning, making the person panic from fear of death. Sure, it’s not very nice and something that no one would want to be subject to, but torture? I reserve that word for things involving great pain and/or body mutilation.

]]> By: Ryan Jesperson http://committedtoromney.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70464 Ryan Jesperson Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:31:20 +0000 http://blog.electromneyin2008.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70464 Texan, Bryan's words over at Hotair address your comment perfectly: "Ok, so now we know he wants to put the detainees at Leavenworth. If SCOTUS doesn’t grant them habeus corpus, that move is likely to as the nearest federal judge will have the ACLU camped out in his inbox. What then? And what happens when the Gitmo critics just move on to start criticizing us for holding the detainees at Leavenworth? The end result of Huckabee’s stance will be to grant the detainees full rights in US civilian courts, either that or freeing them, since he won’t take the stand that our detaining them at Gitmo is both lawful and humane and has established the precedent that he’ll retreat in the face of unfair and unreasonable criticism of the US." No way around it my friend...Hucakbee is soft on terror, poor on national security. More concerned about what "the rest of the world" thinks than what is best for the U.S. Texan,

Bryan’s words over at Hotair address your comment perfectly:

“Ok, so now we know he wants to put the detainees at Leavenworth. If SCOTUS doesn’t grant them habeus corpus, that move is likely to as the nearest federal judge will have the ACLU camped out in his inbox. What then? And what happens when the Gitmo critics just move on to start criticizing us for holding the detainees at Leavenworth? The end result of Huckabee’s stance will be to grant the detainees full rights in US civilian courts, either that or freeing them, since he won’t take the stand that our detaining them at Gitmo is both lawful and humane and has established the precedent that he’ll retreat in the face of unfair and unreasonable criticism of the US.”

No way around it my friend…Hucakbee is soft on terror, poor on national security. More concerned about what “the rest of the world” thinks than what is best for the U.S.

]]> By: SGS http://committedtoromney.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70461 SGS Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:19:06 +0000 http://blog.electromneyin2008.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70461 Texan, this is exactly the same position as McCain. He, like Huckabee, wants to move those terrorists to Fort Leavenworth. Now, here is the problem, my pal, which they did not acknowledged (well, McCain emphasized this to be a world relationship problem and nothing more). The US Constitution is written to protect the rights of the citizens. It has nothing to do with non-citizens. Regardless, we have extended the courtesy to them, and give them the opportunity to prove themselves worthwhile of the citizenship. Now, the liberals have muddled this line, and pretty much everyone who is on the soil of The USA is automatically granted the Constitutional rights, no matter what their citizenship status is. This is the entire point of having this Guantanamo so-called "prison". There is nothing wrong with the prison. They are treated even better than our own imiates in our own prisons. The liberals have been making too much noise that the people like McCain believe our reputation are ruined because of this single prison. Shame on those who has listen to them! In reality, those terrorists are actively trying to destroy us all. They are fanaticial! They do not care about our own rights. They will rather shoot us down and dance on our body than to negotiate with us. We do need to ensure that our citizens first are protected, and we are not there - YET! So, until we recognize this HARD FACT, I am in favor of not granting to terrorists the rights the liberals claim they have, and to hell with what the rest of the world think of us. Yes, some of them (a handful, perhaps) may be innocent, but we are in middle of the war which THEY have declared against us. We will ALWAYS have the innocent casualties. Again, this is the HARD FACT of the war (which we never did declare). Perhaps we did not realize that never once had our good presidents (meaning G.Washington all the way down until Carter the Jokster, then the Reagen and Bush administrations) take into consideration how the world would judge us. McCain, his claim nevertheless, is not the best Commander in Chief if he is concerned about how others would think of us. It does not look like Huckabee has the spine to stand up for the right, even if the whole universe is against us. Texan, this is exactly the same position as McCain. He, like Huckabee, wants to move those terrorists to Fort Leavenworth. Now, here is the problem, my pal, which they did not acknowledged (well, McCain emphasized this to be a world relationship problem and nothing more). The US Constitution is written to protect the rights of the citizens. It has nothing to do with non-citizens. Regardless, we have extended the courtesy to them, and give them the opportunity to prove themselves worthwhile of the citizenship. Now, the liberals have muddled this line, and pretty much everyone who is on the soil of The USA is automatically granted the Constitutional rights, no matter what their citizenship status is. This is the entire point of having this Guantanamo so-called “prison”. There is nothing wrong with the prison. They are treated even better than our own imiates in our own prisons. The liberals have been making too much noise that the people like McCain believe our reputation are ruined because of this single prison. Shame on those who has listen to them!

In reality, those terrorists are actively trying to destroy us all. They are fanaticial! They do not care about our own rights. They will rather shoot us down and dance on our body than to negotiate with us. We do need to ensure that our citizens first are protected, and we are not there - YET! So, until we recognize this HARD FACT, I am in favor of not granting to terrorists the rights the liberals claim they have, and to hell with what the rest of the world think of us. Yes, some of them (a handful, perhaps) may be innocent, but we are in middle of the war which THEY have declared against us. We will ALWAYS have the innocent casualties. Again, this is the HARD FACT of the war (which we never did declare). Perhaps we did not realize that never once had our good presidents (meaning G.Washington all the way down until Carter the Jokster, then the Reagen and Bush administrations) take into consideration how the world would judge us. McCain, his claim nevertheless, is not the best Commander in Chief if he is concerned about how others would think of us. It does not look like Huckabee has the spine to stand up for the right, even if the whole universe is against us.

]]> By: SGS http://committedtoromney.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70458 SGS Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:59:28 +0000 http://blog.electromneyin2008.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70458 If Huckabee has been spouting nothing but jokes during his interviews, I will be extremely uncomfortable voting for him -- even much much more than how I am currently quite uncomfortable voting for him due to his claim to Christianity. With the latter, at least, even though a good Christian does not equal a good McDonald manager, leaving alone the President of The USA, at least, I had a very slight hope that he would apply the good work ethics to himself. But with all of his jokes, it sounds like to me he has not studied the issues in depth. So, that takes away even that slight tiny bity hope!!! I now am starting to wonder how much more uncomfortable can he make me, seeing we have only a month left! If Huckabee has been spouting nothing but jokes during his interviews, I will be extremely uncomfortable voting for him — even much much more than how I am currently quite uncomfortable voting for him due to his claim to Christianity. With the latter, at least, even though a good Christian does not equal a good McDonald manager, leaving alone the President of The USA, at least, I had a very slight hope that he would apply the good work ethics to himself. But with all of his jokes, it sounds like to me he has not studied the issues in depth. So, that takes away even that slight tiny bity hope!!! I now am starting to wonder how much more uncomfortable can he make me, seeing we have only a month left!

]]> By: Curious Texan http://committedtoromney.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70456 Curious Texan Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:48:20 +0000 http://blog.electromneyin2008.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70456 Here's Huckabee's <a href="http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Blogs.View&Blog_id=837" rel="nofollow">Statement on Guantanamo Bay Detention Facility</a>. He's most assuredly not advocating closing Guantanamo and letting all the terrorists free, but rather moving them to a facility in the States, like Fort Leavenworth. I think this quote from the statement is key: "As President, my overriding concern in dealing with the suspected terrorists will always be our national security interests. As I stated in June, my first priority will be the protection of the American people and ensuring that all suspected terrorists remain in our custody." Here’s Huckabee’s Statement on Guantanamo Bay Detention Facility.

He’s most assuredly not advocating closing Guantanamo and letting all the terrorists free, but rather moving them to a facility in the States, like Fort Leavenworth.

I think this quote from the statement is key:

“As President, my overriding concern in dealing with the suspected terrorists will always be our national security interests. As I stated in June, my first priority will be the protection of the American people and ensuring that all suspected terrorists remain in our custody.”

]]> By: shiggz http://committedtoromney.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70454 shiggz Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:14:33 +0000 http://blog.electromneyin2008.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70454 remember when Thompson got the big ABBR media push. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nh/new_hampshire_republican_primary-193.html He announced in may by july he peaked it was all down hill once the media criticism started. They sure love playing king makers, maybe its their pre-season build up-tear down cycle they like to do try out on each new republican. Kind of a flex their muscles gauge how much they can help and hurt him. Of course regular people would never think that way.... thats why they consume rather then produce media. remember when Thompson got the big ABBR media push.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nh/new_hampshire_republican_primary-193.html

He announced in may by july he peaked it was all down hill once the media criticism started. They sure love playing king makers, maybe its their pre-season build up-tear down cycle they like to do try out on each new republican. Kind of a flex their muscles gauge how much they can help and hurt him.

Of course regular people would never think that way…. thats why they consume rather then produce media.

]]> By: Neal Jones http://committedtoromney.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70453 Neal Jones Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:09:29 +0000 http://blog.electromneyin2008.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70453 It will be statements such as this (Holiday Inn Express) that will doom the Huckster. He's going to begin his plummet in the polls and won't stop till around 10% or so. He's so weak in so many areas. It will be statements such as this (Holiday Inn Express) that will doom the Huckster.

He’s going to begin his plummet in the polls and won’t stop till around 10% or so. He’s so weak in so many areas.

]]> By: bigmo http://committedtoromney.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70442 bigmo Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:55:10 +0000 http://blog.electromneyin2008.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70442 "Was it a good joke? Not really." I left that out for some reason. “Was it a good joke? Not really.” I left that out for some reason.

]]> By: bigmo http://committedtoromney.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70440 bigmo Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:54:29 +0000 http://blog.electromneyin2008.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70440 The joke was that is the tagline for the Holiday Inn Express advertising. They'll show someone doing something impressive, like rushing to provide medical care to an injured athlete. "Oh, I'm not a doctor. But I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night." As in smart people stay there. Was it a good joke? What is worrisome about Huckabee is not that he told a joke, its that he had little choice but to tell a joke. He has no real answer to that question. The joke was that is the tagline for the Holiday Inn Express advertising. They’ll show someone doing something impressive, like rushing to provide medical care to an injured athlete. “Oh, I’m not a doctor. But I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.” As in smart people stay there. Was it a good joke? What is worrisome about Huckabee is not that he told a joke, its that he had little choice but to tell a joke. He has no real answer to that question.

]]> By: Ann Marie Curling http://committedtoromney.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70435 Ann Marie Curling Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:50:12 +0000 http://blog.electromneyin2008.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70435 I don't even see the joke in that, it doesn't even remotely equate to anything. What a strange man that Huckabee. I don’t even see the joke in that, it doesn’t even remotely equate to anything. What a strange man that Huckabee.

]]> By: Mark http://committedtoromney.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70433 Mark Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:33:51 +0000 http://blog.electromneyin2008.com/2007/12/04/huckabees-frightening-views-of-national-security/#comment-70433 This can’t be real. This guy is self destructing… When asked by Don Imus this morning about his lack of foreign policy credentials, Mike Huckabee joked: “And the ultimate thing is, you know, I may not be the expert as some people on foreign policy – but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.” (WABC Radio, 12/04/07) This can’t be real. This guy is self destructing…

When asked by Don Imus this morning about his lack of foreign policy credentials, Mike Huckabee joked: “And the ultimate thing is, you know, I may not be the expert as some people on foreign policy – but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.” (WABC Radio, 12/04/07)

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